So, are you having a Happy New Year thus far? Hopefully you are, because there are many who are not. Case in point, check out what happened to the Ramirez and Ortiz family of Phoenix, Arizona. Like many across America, their celebration of the new year involved guns. Now, I don’t know where you may live, but it’s very common to hear the occasional celebratory gunshot around here at midnight when the ball drops. Unfortunately for the Ramirez family, their moment of joy turned to tragedy, when the 19-year-old Savannah Ramirez accidentally shot her older brother while attempting to take photos for Facebook. Yep, yet another case that proves that alcohol and guns do not mix.

This from Gawker:

A 19-year-old woman in Phoenix who accidentally shot and killed her brother was posing with a gun for Facebook photos, according to local police.

Savannah Ramirez and her brother, 22-year-old Manuel Ortiz, were celebrating New Year’s Eve at Ortiz’s apartment along with three other people, when a Facebook photoshoot with a gun turned deadly.

Brother & Sister: Msnuel Ortiz & Savannah Ramirez

Police believe both Ramirez and Ortiz were drinking and the weapon was in Ramirez’s hand when it accidentally discharged. If blood tests confirm that alcohol was indeed involved, Phoenix police Sgt. Steve Martos said Ramirez would likely be charged with manslaughter.

“Every New Year’s Eve, this particular sister is going to be thinking about this for the rest of her life,” Martos said.

You know that silly argument that many refuse to accept that says guns don’t kill, but it is people with guns who do? I think in this case, at least, it can be said that this accidental shooting supports the aforementioned argument. But don’t tell that to the NRA president, Wayne La Pierre.

  • This is definitely a senseless tragedy for their family and friends.
    What does it take to make people realize that owning a gun has responsibility attached to it? This type of shooting should be a lesson to individuals who think that owning a weapon without a true clue of how to handle it, is not the makings of being gangsta. It is the potential content of creating a funeral and a lifetime of sadness and regret.

  • Excellent comment!

    And just to add on: It’s sad that conversations on gun control seeks to punish or set new rules based on the actions of irresponsible owners, or the isolated case of a mentally disturbed individual committing murder with assault weapons.

  • Reggie

    This is a sad and senseless tragedy. How does she live with herself? How does that family forgive her?

    Why is it that the rights of handgun owners outweighs the right to live?

    This should not have happened.

  • Awesomer

    Haha dumbasses. Well at least thats one way of taking out the trash. Having them do it themselves. Look at their facebook accounts. all gangs with guns. Why are the police not tracking them down and charging them with illegal possession of a fire arm? Im sure most of the kids with the guns didn’t buy them.


    Sad, but very true!!

  • That the accident happened by the sister seems like dumb luck; because pointing a loaded gun at your head is much more determinate of the “people” killing people rather than guns. Brother is much more to blame for that kind of tomfoolery