Comments on: SendGrid, Adria Richards, & Sexism in the Tech Community http://www.rippdemup.com/2013/03/sendgrid-adria-richards-sexism-in-the-tech-community/ It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder... Fri, 13 Sep 2013 21:21:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: TiffJ http://www.rippdemup.com/2013/03/sendgrid-adria-richards-sexism-in-the-tech-community/#comment-3856 TiffJ Mon, 25 Mar 2013 03:37:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=10198#comment-3856 @Mwatuanghi:disqus “but given the fact that this is supposed to be a professional event one can’t fault her for taking offense, especially given the demographic.”
–Exactly! And this is what folks fail to realize. They may have not been talking *directly to her*, but it wasn’t a PRIVATE convo either… considering where they were and what they were there for. They were sitting within earshot of people and joked openly. *They* acknowledged the behavior was inappropriate, and so did Pycon organizers and PlayHaven. SendGrid publicly announcing Adria’s termination, not decrying the threats she began receiving, and then leaving the unmoderated forum open for further harassment, was unprofessional.

Those of us who have the nerve to express an opinion, speaking out against the abuse Adria is getting, have been getting harassed anonymously as well. People are unhinged, like THEY lost their job. People can certainly disagree with Adria’s approach, without the nastiness.

Also, THANKS for the love. I enjoy writing for “Team Madness”. :-)

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By: Mwatuanghi http://www.rippdemup.com/2013/03/sendgrid-adria-richards-sexism-in-the-tech-community/#comment-3855 Mwatuanghi Mon, 25 Mar 2013 01:55:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=10198#comment-3855 It’s great to see you tackle this. I’m glad Rippa added you up here.

I naturally think it was a bit extreme to go to twitter with their images up there, given the knee-jerk reaction social media has nowadays, but given the fact that this is supposed to be a professional event one can’t fault her for taking offense, especially given the demographic. What people continue to miss about this situation is that criticism is far different from using racist pejoratives and threatening rape and other extremities. None of that behavior is justifiable.

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By: TiffJ http://www.rippdemup.com/2013/03/sendgrid-adria-richards-sexism-in-the-tech-community/#comment-3852 TiffJ Sun, 24 Mar 2013 04:40:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=10198#comment-3852 And it’s anonymous people, such as yourself, trying to rationalize the behavior of those making the threats and hurling the nasty insults at Adria and those who stand in solidarity with her. Some of us may not be involved in tech, but that still doesn’t mean we don’t have the right to weigh-in on a nasty situation made public, because this could certainly happen on any other job.

Whether you agree with how Adria chose to shed light on what essentially seems like a bigger problem within the developer community or not, it still doesn’t excuse the nasty reaction. Her dissenters are acting as if *their* personal livelihoods have been threatened. And people continue to gloss over the violent threats and racism she’s been receiving.

The developer in question obviously offended enough, that his company felt it necessary to promptly fire him. And he admitted that he was speaking inappropriately. It was *his employer’s* decision to let him go. People argue that Adria misrepresented SendGrid, I opine that the fired developer also misrepresented PlayHaven, when he chose to *publicly* act the fool during a keynote session. He was supposed to be representing his company, not acting like he was in a boys’ locker room.

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By: Rob http://www.rippdemup.com/2013/03/sendgrid-adria-richards-sexism-in-the-tech-community/#comment-3851 Rob Sun, 24 Mar 2013 03:48:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=10198#comment-3851 Things are a little slanted here. What the developers said was amongst themselves, not intended to offend, and certainly was not harassing or oppressive.

Adria, who has a documented history of stirring up drama, was eavesdropping on the conversation. She took a picture of the developers and used her position of visibility to publicly shame two regular guys (with kids) for a joke they made between each other. “Trial by Twitter” is both cruel and permanent.

She was the public face for SendGrid, and the one who interacts with developers. They had to let her go — you can’t have someone so polarizing representing your company. It just doesn’t make sense.

The reaction on both sides is especially ugly. Disturbing threats towards Adria, wild assumption about the character of the developers, etc. It’s all really unfortunate. But it’s not the tech community fueling it, as you suggest — it’s anonymous individuals — those not even involved in tech and drawing their own conclusions, such as yourself.

By the way:

Forking: Copying a project and modifying it to do something the original project didn’t (rightfully, legally). Usually seen as something very positive, if not flattering.

Dongle: Any small computer peripheral, like a USB drive.

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By: TiffJ http://www.rippdemup.com/2013/03/sendgrid-adria-richards-sexism-in-the-tech-community/#comment-3850 TiffJ Sat, 23 Mar 2013 04:02:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=10198#comment-3850 Even so, that didn’t stop online trolls from calling her horrible racial epithets, including “Nigger”. And I agree… they were def wrong for the threats and name-calling.

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By: daman http://www.rippdemup.com/2013/03/sendgrid-adria-richards-sexism-in-the-tech-community/#comment-3849 daman Sat, 23 Mar 2013 01:48:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=10198#comment-3849 she looks like she has a white parent. interesting though. that was wrong for them to harrass her like that

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By: TiffJ http://www.rippdemup.com/2013/03/sendgrid-adria-richards-sexism-in-the-tech-community/#comment-3848 TiffJ Sat, 23 Mar 2013 00:18:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=10198#comment-3848 Amended. Thanks.

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By: John LeBoeuf-Little http://www.rippdemup.com/2013/03/sendgrid-adria-richards-sexism-in-the-tech-community/#comment-3847 John LeBoeuf-Little Fri, 22 Mar 2013 23:25:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=10198#comment-3847 Hey, quick fact check – according to the PyCon incident report here: http://pycon.blogspot.com/2013/03/pycon-response-to-inappropriate.html : nobody got ejected from the conference.

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