Comments on: The Defamation and Assassination of Ms. Lauryn Hill http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/07/the-defamation-and-assassination-of-ms-lauryn-hill/ It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder... Thu, 02 Aug 2012 03:50:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: E http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/07/the-defamation-and-assassination-of-ms-lauryn-hill/#comment-2874 E Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:13:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=7286#comment-2874 "Lauryn lives a bipolor existence — on one hand, she is adored like a Goddess — and on the other she is perpetually defamed." Like all black women, Lauryn is stuck in a paradigm she didn't create, in which no black woman is allowed to be fully human. “Lauryn lives a bipolor existence — on one hand, she is adored like a Goddess — and on the other she is perpetually defamed.” Like all black women, Lauryn is stuck in a paradigm she didn’t create, in which no black woman is allowed to be fully human.

]]> By: Deb http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/07/the-defamation-and-assassination-of-ms-lauryn-hill/#comment-2864 Deb Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:11:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=7286#comment-2864 This is some beautiful, "decolonial love" (http://www.salon.com/writer/paula_m_l_moya/) for a sister who -- certainly deserves it. Thank you for this. This is some beautiful, “decolonial love” (http://www.salon.com/writer/paula_m_l_moya/) for a sister who — certainly deserves it. Thank you for this.

]]> By: Shady Grady http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/07/the-defamation-and-assassination-of-ms-lauryn-hill/#comment-2858 Shady Grady Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:52:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=7286#comment-2858 Ask Irwin Schiff about whether or not the government is serious about putting people in jail who give the government a middle finger by not filing returns and not paying taxes. Black, white, staid establishment, would be revolutionary, you're gonna pay taxes. Hill is not the first artist to fall out of favor and won't be the last. I doubt it but 20 years from now people may be talking about her great genius. Who knows? But that has nothing to do with why she's in trouble. Ja Rule,Heidi Fleiss, Ronald Isley and Richard Hatch went to prison for not paying taxes. I don't think they were targeted because of their revolutionary stances. They were targeted because they didn't pay taxes. The point of sending people to jail is precisely to make an example so that anyone who is idiotic enough not to file for years will have the possible example of Hill or past example of Helmsley in their mind and think twice before doing something so reckless. Ask Irwin Schiff about whether or not the government is serious about putting people in jail who give the government a middle finger by not filing returns and not paying taxes. Black, white, staid establishment, would be revolutionary, you’re gonna pay taxes.

Hill is not the first artist to fall out of favor and won’t be the last. I doubt it but 20 years from now people may be talking about her great genius. Who knows? But that has nothing to do with why she’s in trouble. Ja Rule,Heidi Fleiss, Ronald Isley and Richard Hatch went to prison for not paying taxes. I don’t think they were targeted because of their revolutionary stances. They were targeted because they didn’t pay taxes.

The point of sending people to jail is precisely to make an example so that anyone who is idiotic enough not to file for years will have the possible example of Hill or past example of Helmsley in their mind and think twice before doing something so reckless.

]]> By: Uluru Sasa http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/07/the-defamation-and-assassination-of-ms-lauryn-hill/#comment-2856 Uluru Sasa Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:13:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=7286#comment-2856 If people are going to be so critical of a single person who does not pay her taxes that only equal 1.6 million, those same people need to be ready to be just as critical of corporations who are not paying their taxes (and havent for years) that add up to 10s of billions of dollars. If people are going to be so critical of a single person who does not pay her taxes that only equal 1.6 million, those same people need to be ready to be just as critical of corporations who are not paying their taxes (and havent for years) that add up to 10s of billions of dollars.

]]> By: Tracy Renee Jones http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/07/the-defamation-and-assassination-of-ms-lauryn-hill/#comment-2855 Tracy Renee Jones Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:30:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=7286#comment-2855 No, she didn't pay her taxes....and so...but strange that an otherwise law abiding citizens, whose lively hood includes raising several children (if not supporting family and relatives as people do in regular life) should go to jail with no get out of jail free card. The Feds are WAYYYYYY more concerned with wealthy non-tax payers to pay those back taxes, plus fees, plus fines, plus interest..plus....Mo Money Mo Money. True, the average person is worth a pretty penny in jail, however, the usual remedy to this situation is to have the person pay restitution, not jail time where their income (future taxes...) will be compromised. Makes no sense, see... Two, the article is about how no one gives a fuck about Lauren Hill because she's not a stage monkey, media whore willing to sell her soul to stay 'relevant' with people who don't GIF. Her old music is still amazing, her new music may not be for her old fan base, she's not the first artist to change lanes, and lose some fans. Uh, yeah... There's always the option to jail a person that broke the law, that's the point, on the greater scheme of things this could be a simple incident of a person of color with clout and what happens on tonight's episode of Justice Gone Wild....you know how we do... *drops the gavel like its hot* No, she didn’t pay her taxes….and so…but strange that an otherwise law abiding citizens, whose lively hood includes raising several children (if not supporting family and relatives as people do in regular life) should go to jail with no get out of jail free card.

The Feds are WAYYYYYY more concerned with wealthy non-tax payers to pay those back taxes, plus fees, plus fines, plus interest..plus….Mo Money Mo Money.

True, the average person is worth a pretty penny in jail, however, the usual remedy to this situation is to have the person pay restitution, not jail time where their income (future taxes…) will be compromised. Makes no sense, see…

Two, the article is about how no one gives a fuck about Lauren Hill because she’s not a stage monkey, media whore willing to sell her soul to stay ‘relevant’ with people who don’t GIF. Her old music is still amazing, her new music may not be for her old fan base, she’s not the first artist to change lanes, and lose some fans.

Uh, yeah… There’s always the option to jail a person that broke the law, that’s the point, on the greater scheme of things this could be a simple incident of a person of color with clout and what happens on tonight’s episode of Justice Gone Wild….you know how we do… *drops the gavel like its hot*

]]> By: Shady Grady http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/07/the-defamation-and-assassination-of-ms-lauryn-hill/#comment-2852 Shady Grady Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:29:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=7286#comment-2852 Are you even remotely serious? If you don't even file tax returns that is a red flag to the IRS. If you have, as she did, income over the three years of 1.6 million, and don't pay taxes you're gonna go to prison/probation, just like Leona "only the little people pay taxes" Helmsley. There are ways to legally reduce or avoid taxes. Not filing and spewing forth mumbo-jumbo about being controlled by the military industrial complex is not one of them. Perhaps she suffers from depression? In any event, depressed or not, you've gotta file returns and pay your taxes. If you don't want to do that that's your right but don't be surprised when men with guns come to take you someplace unpleasant for a while. Arguing that someone else might have gotten away with something is the same thing the speeder doing 90 MPH in a 60 MPH zone tells the cop when he gets pulled over. Yes, the cop can't catch everyone but that has nothing to do with the fact that you were breaking the law. Are you even remotely serious? If you don’t even file tax returns that is a red flag to the IRS. If you have, as she did, income over the three years of 1.6 million, and don’t pay taxes you’re gonna go to prison/probation, just like Leona “only the little people pay taxes” Helmsley.

There are ways to legally reduce or avoid taxes. Not filing and spewing forth mumbo-jumbo about being controlled by the military industrial complex is not one of them. Perhaps she suffers from depression?

In any event, depressed or not, you’ve gotta file returns and pay your taxes. If you don’t want to do that that’s your right but don’t be surprised when men with guns come to take you someplace unpleasant for a while.

Arguing that someone else might have gotten away with something is the same thing the speeder doing 90 MPH in a 60 MPH zone tells the cop when he gets pulled over. Yes, the cop can’t catch everyone but that has nothing to do with the fact that you were breaking the law.

]]> By: Ecosoul Intellectual http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/07/the-defamation-and-assassination-of-ms-lauryn-hill/#comment-2851 Ecosoul Intellectual Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:50:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=7286#comment-2851 Gratzi. I think people have also gotten Hill fatigue around her incognito stature in an age where the average celeb is tweeting, FB posting, instagraming, dining @ Mr. Chow's for paparazzi, etc. Gratzi. I think people have also gotten Hill fatigue around her incognito stature in an age where the average celeb is tweeting, FB posting, instagraming, dining @ Mr. Chow’s for paparazzi, etc.

]]> By: Ecosoul Intellectual http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/07/the-defamation-and-assassination-of-ms-lauryn-hill/#comment-2850 Ecosoul Intellectual Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:48:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=7286#comment-2850 Val, though Ali was never imprisoned in an industrial complex, he was stripped and forbidden to fight like house arrest. Thanks for adding the clarity for folks who don't the story. Val, though Ali was never imprisoned in an industrial complex, he was stripped and forbidden to fight like house arrest. Thanks for adding the clarity for folks who don’t the story.

]]> By: Ecosoul Intellectual http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/07/the-defamation-and-assassination-of-ms-lauryn-hill/#comment-2849 Ecosoul Intellectual Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:47:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=7286#comment-2849 Shady Grady, your dismissive attitude is exactly what keeps the wheels of injustice turning. Never once did I say she was innocent of not filing taxes. And filing federal taxes is such a sham anyway, but that's another debate. However, a corporation can have offshore banking and never file one US tax return; and truth be told, quite a few people do not, but are afforded some type of resolution or payoff. My point being, Hill is a target for not playing along. There had to be something that she did. She didn't fuck kids. She wasn't a crack head, so the taxes thing stuck. It is a worn out, but still effective tactic that has people co-signing to injustice and unfairness while sealing their own doom. Shady Grady, your dismissive attitude is exactly what keeps the wheels of injustice turning. Never once did I say she was innocent of not filing taxes. And filing federal taxes is such a sham anyway, but that’s another debate. However, a corporation can have offshore banking and never file one US tax return; and truth be told, quite a few people do not, but are afforded some type of resolution or payoff. My point being, Hill is a target for not playing along. There had to be something that she did. She didn’t fuck kids. She wasn’t a crack head, so the taxes thing stuck. It is a worn out, but still effective tactic that has people co-signing to injustice and unfairness while sealing their own doom.

]]> By: Shady Grady http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/07/the-defamation-and-assassination-of-ms-lauryn-hill/#comment-2848 Shady Grady Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:06:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=7286#comment-2848 But what does any of this have to do with her not paying her taxes? She didn't file tax returns for three years. The IRS notices something like that. But what does any of this have to do with her not paying her taxes? She didn’t file tax returns for three years. The IRS notices something like that.

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