Comments on: Forget Race: Would Marissa Alexander be in Prison if She was a Man who Acted in Fear?

By: RiPPa

RiPPa — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:53:00 +0000

There’s Florida statute 776.013 (a k a Stand Your Ground), and there’s another chapter, 776.041, called “use of force by aggressor.”
That law says the use of force is justified if another is committing a crime or escaping the scene.
A person who “initially provokes the use of force” isn’t justified in responding in a deadly fashion unless he meets two criteria: If he has reason to believe he’s about to be killed or seriously wounded and if he has “exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant.”
Now, you can call this a miscarriage of justice based on race all day long if you like. But the fact remains: given the Florida statute as written, Marissa Alexander’s motion for immunity under stand your ground was denied based on the fact that it did not meet the criteria to qualify as such.

By: RiPPa

RiPPa — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:10:00 +0000

Did she take a beatdown that night in questions? Did she fire a warning shot while being on the receiving end of allged beatdown? The answer is no.

By: RiPPa

RiPPa — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:08:00 +0000

Rico Gray may be a piece of shit, but it does not diminish the fact that he was the victim in this case. The facts of the case as presented at trial, are very different than the story told by Marissa and her supporters. In my last post on her I pointed out just what those lies and exaggerations were.

By: blksista

blksista — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:22:00 +0000

So you believe Rico Gray, a guy who has admittedly beat up several other women—except this one? What makes him a pussycat or a lamb to the slaughter in this case, but not in the others?

Contrary to popular belief, I do believe that women can be abusive towards children and boyfriends/husbands. Somehow, Gray does not pass the smell test, imho.

By: Reggie

Reggie — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 00:34:00 +0000

Yeah but………maybe she should do some time?!? Maybe she meant to bust a cap in his ass?!? Maybe she could have gotten up and walked out and went about her business without both taking a beatdown or shooting her husband?!?

By: The Storyteller

The Storyteller — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 00:11:00 +0000

in the six tapes released by angela corey’s office you hear george and shellie discussing the 135 thousand dollars from his website as just 135 dollars trying to speak in code so people wouldn’t understand just how much money they had ahead of george’s april 20th bond hearing. they also discuss having her move money from the pay pal account to her credit union account (technically money laundering though a bit of a stretch) and how much support they’ve received and the attorney needs to get people to speak out on their behalf.

they also discussed how zimmerman would leave jail once he received bail requesting tinted SUVs bullet proof vests and oh his hoodie.

By: RiPPa

RiPPa — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 00:08:00 +0000

I’ve been busy as hell today. What did the new audio reveal?

By: The Storyteller

The Storyteller — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:55:00 +0000

the facts of the case do point to her guilt. but in answering the question posed in the title if Marissa were a man and or had she killed her second husband i highly doubt she’d be facing 20 years to life. the injustice is not only the racial angle of the law well documented in the Tampa Baby times but its unfair and uneven application.

Marissa may have acted out of fear and anger. A battered woman trying to leave then picked a fight because she had a gun. It’s not a good look.

And neither is the reason why her case matters in the first place.

George Zimmerman followed Trayvon Martin against police dispatch orders and described to 911 operators a possibly Black male, looking suspicious, looking at all the houses, possibly on drugs or something, and these people always get away. they always do.

He picked a fight shot and killed a man and unfortunately i believe if he doesn’t walk at trial (this is Florida) he will be pleaded down to a lesser sentence and pick up his life after at least five years.

Marissa’s case is muddied, she’s neither completely credible nor sympathetic, and neither is Zimmerman with the release of today’s audio tapes shows and proves he has no remorse for what he did and is only concerned about living his life sans conviction for murder.

By: RiPPa

RiPPa — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:34:00 +0000

Having read the facts of the case, it’s hard for me to see this as an injkustice. First off, leaving your house and returning with a gun only to pull the trigger after uttering the words, “I got something for your ass,” doesn’t sound too much like acting out of fear.

As for the race angle? Check out what I wrote last week:

http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/06/so-you-say-stand-your-ground-is-inherently-racist-because-marissa-alexander-is-in-prison/

By: The Storyteller

The Storyteller — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:58:00 +0000

My husband and I just had a conversation about this. The simple answer is no. The stand your ground law is inherently flawed. If you can kill and get off then you can shoot close and miss and get off. the law is a license to kill depending upon your race and sex. i think marissa should have killed him and then maybe only her version of the story would stand and she’d be free instead of living a hellish unjustified nightmare for the next 20 years.