Comments on: Huey P. Newton Condemns New Black Panthers, Zimmermans Challenge Eric Holder http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/04/huey-p-newton-condemns-new-black-panthers-zimmermans-challenge-eric-holder/ It's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder... Fri, 20 Apr 2012 23:48:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: RiPPa http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/04/huey-p-newton-condemns-new-black-panthers-zimmermans-challenge-eric-holder/#comment-2271 RiPPa Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:28:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=5514#comment-2271 And just exactly what does this "alternative" produce? How is it's effectiveness measured as successful relative to other tried and true efforts? And just exactly what does this “alternative” produce? How is it’s effectiveness measured as successful relative to other tried and true efforts?

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By: T E http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/04/huey-p-newton-condemns-new-black-panthers-zimmermans-challenge-eric-holder/#comment-2270 T E Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:23:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=5514#comment-2270 They provide an alternative for those in the Black community who are tired of protesting this corrupt American system. Some of us are tired of begging the "man" for justice, equality and freedom". Don't you get tired of second class citizenship OR are you perfectly content with the way things are? They provide an alternative for those in the Black community who are tired of protesting this corrupt American system. Some of us are tired of begging the “man” for justice, equality and freedom”. Don’t you get tired of second class citizenship OR are you perfectly content with the way things are?

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By: RiPPa http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/04/huey-p-newton-condemns-new-black-panthers-zimmermans-challenge-eric-holder/#comment-2264 RiPPa Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:07:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=5514#comment-2264 The New Black Panther Party is important? Really?? What exactly have they done for the Black community? The New Black Panther Party is important? Really?? What exactly have they done for the Black community?

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By: RiPPa http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/04/huey-p-newton-condemns-new-black-panthers-zimmermans-challenge-eric-holder/#comment-2263 RiPPa Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:05:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=5514#comment-2263 I wondered about that when this recent conference call surfaced. These guys have been on the watch list for quite some time now. And, it wouldn't surprise me if they've been infiltrated, I wondered about that when this recent conference call surfaced. These guys have been on the watch list for quite some time now. And, it wouldn’t surprise me if they’ve been infiltrated,

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By: T E http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/04/huey-p-newton-condemns-new-black-panthers-zimmermans-challenge-eric-holder/#comment-2251 T E Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:00:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=5514#comment-2251 That's because the media are sanitizing the issues, not wanting to air the real deal with what's going on in America.  White hate is a more difficult and troubling story to tell. The easier story to portray is Black people begging, AGAIN, for justice. White people are on these blogs and newspaper websites and radio call-in shows spewing hate. Don't underestimate white hatred. That’s because the media are sanitizing the issues, not wanting to air the real deal with what’s going on in America.  White hate is a more difficult and troubling story to tell. The easier story to portray is Black people begging, AGAIN, for justice. White people are on these blogs and newspaper websites and radio call-in shows spewing hate. Don’t underestimate white hatred.

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By: T E http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/04/huey-p-newton-condemns-new-black-panthers-zimmermans-challenge-eric-holder/#comment-2250 T E Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:51:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=5514#comment-2250 I think the NBPP is an important component in the debate on racial issues. Most of you  handkerchief-head Negroes is too damn scared to tell the white world how you really feel. Skinheads are patrolling the streets in Sanford FL. It's good to make clear that America has a choice: you can do the right thing: charge Zimmerman, and the NBPP and protesters go away. OR, you can treat Black people like sub-human throw-aways and deal with the ensuing outrage. I think the NBPP is an important component in the debate on racial issues. Most of you  handkerchief-head Negroes is too damn scared to tell the white world how you really feel. Skinheads are patrolling the streets in Sanford FL. It’s good to make clear that America has a choice: you can do the right thing: charge Zimmerman, and the NBPP and protesters go away. OR, you can treat Black people like sub-human throw-aways and deal with the ensuing outrage.

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By: Shady Grady http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/04/huey-p-newton-condemns-new-black-panthers-zimmermans-challenge-eric-holder/#comment-2246 Shady Grady Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:08:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=5514#comment-2246 It is not beyond the realm of possibility that the NBBP is a creation of the FBI, Homeland Security, etc or has been co-opted by such groups. One of the fascinating/frightening things learned by reading the Karl Evanzz and Marable  books on Malcolm and the Nation was the extent to which so many groups were penetrated or compromised by the national (or local) security state apparatus. Even if that's not the case the NBBP is making the same mistakes that dogged people like Cleaver -lots of theater and talk-little community support or positive actions. Their primary achievement appears to have been to legitimize the factually true but intellectually lazy idea of "Well there are haters on both sides". It is not beyond the realm of possibility that the NBBP is a creation of the FBI, Homeland Security, etc or has been co-opted by such groups. One of the fascinating/frightening things learned by reading the Karl Evanzz and Marable  books on Malcolm and the Nation was the extent to which so many groups were penetrated or compromised by the national (or local) security state apparatus.

Even if that’s not the case the NBBP is making the same mistakes that dogged people like Cleaver -lots of theater and talk-little community support or positive actions. Their primary achievement appears to have been to legitimize the factually true but intellectually lazy idea of “Well there are haters on both sides”.

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By: RiPPa http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/04/huey-p-newton-condemns-new-black-panthers-zimmermans-challenge-eric-holder/#comment-2242 RiPPa Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:55:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=5514#comment-2242 Only difference, white militias aren't out here being caught on tape talking about killing black folks and putting dead or alive bounties on people's heads on CNN like the NBPP has. Only difference, white militias aren’t out here being caught on tape talking about killing black folks and putting dead or alive bounties on people’s heads on CNN like the NBPP has.

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By: Ivan Ivanovich Renko http://www.rippdemup.com/2012/04/huey-p-newton-condemns-new-black-panthers-zimmermans-challenge-eric-holder/#comment-2241 Ivan Ivanovich Renko Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:33:00 +0000 http://www.rippdemup.com/?p=5514#comment-2241 <blockquote>It’s with this in mind that I say the following: the New Black Panther Party are no different than any street gang across the country. They’re thirsty for attention, and they are unproductive.</blockquote> They do, however, have some nifty military-ish duds.  As do the <a href="http://boingboing.net/2010/03/29/christian-militia-gr.html" rel="nofollow">Hutaree militia,</a> and of course our <a href="http://www.opposingviews.com/i/tea-party-activists-encouraged-to-bring-guns-to-anti-obama-rally" rel="nofollow">conservative fellow-citizens</a> of the self-styled Tea Party.  Unlike those latter two groups, the NBPP doesn't have a trove of military-style weapons and a hoard of ammunition. Which is not to say that I disagree with you on the NBPP; and of course, Dr. Newton's word is bond when it comes to the <i>real</i> Black Panther Party.  I just wouldn't want to lose sight of the fact that white groups are organized like the NBPP would like to be, armed like the NBPP could only dream of, and <i>explicitly</i> expressed their desire and preparation for "race war."

It’s with this in mind that I say the following: the New Black Panther Party are no different than any street gang across the country. They’re thirsty for attention, and they are unproductive.

They do, however, have some nifty military-ish duds. 

As do the Hutaree militia, and of course our conservative fellow-citizens of the self-styled Tea Party.  Unlike those latter two groups, the NBPP doesn’t have a trove of military-style weapons and a hoard of ammunition.

Which is not to say that I disagree with you on the NBPP; and of course, Dr. Newton’s word is bond when it comes to the real Black Panther Party.  I just wouldn’t want to lose sight of the fact that white groups are organized like the NBPP would like to be, armed like the NBPP could only dream of, and explicitly expressed their desire and preparation for “race war.”

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